[clam-devel] I want to collaborate!

Roberto Chauderlot Marchamalo rchauderlot at gmail.com
Mon Jun 21 16:23:31 PDT 2010


On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 9:52 PM, David García Garzón <
david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org> wrote:

> On Monday 21 June 2010 17:25:35 Roberto Chauderlot Marchamalo wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I'll try to write in english because I dont want give you more work. But,
> I
> > warn that my english is very very bad.
> >
> > First of all, the way that I 'fixed' the id3lib to make it install was
> > change the configuration of mac ports, not really a patch. I changed the
> > configuration of the architectures to compile in the "universal" variant.
> > It was set to "x86_64 i386", and I seted temporally to "x86_64". It's not
> > a good solution, and probably, that library will not work on 32bit
> > systems. But, I didn't want to spend a lot of time on it. Anyway, I think
> > that I'm building the library for the x86_64 architecture because I'm not
> > using any kind of cross compiling directive, but I'm not sure what is the
> > default architecture of the compiler.
>
> Anyway, could you point up the problems (error messages) you found when you
> decided took that path?
>
>
I didn't remember exactly, but the error says something like "No executable
for platform i386" followed by several compiling errors. So, I decided
compile it only for x86_64........I'll try to reproduce the error to report
it to macports.

> I think that a solution for the qt4-mac executables suffixes is add a line
> > in clam/CLAM/scons/sconstools/qt4.py after line 226: 219 def
> > locateQt4Command(env, command, qtdir) :
> > 220 suffixes = [
> > 221 '-qt4',
> > 222 '-qt4.exe',
> > 223 '4',
> > 224 '4.exe',
> > 225 '',
> > 226 '.exe',
> > '-mac',
> > 227 ]
>
> Yes, that would work pretty well. Not sure whether it is a general solution
> for the qt tool as other users (not just clam as the tool is used for other
> projects) would want to use the x11 version. I already filled a bug report
> for
> qt so that this can be obtained from the pc file whatever the situation as
> now
> we could do with moc and uic. Indeed a better solution would be obtaining
> the
> binaries location for moc and uic using pkgconfig and deducing prefixes and
> suffixes for the rest.
>
> > I think it will work fine meanwhile the qt4 project fix the pkg-config
> bug,
> > and I think that it's better solution than the unsuffixed symbolic links.
> >
> > Second, I've found why scons doesn't include the soname link while
> compiles
> > the bundle. It's because there is a bug in a scons script of the main
> lib,
> > and it doesn't create the soname link during the install. The bug is in
> > file clam/CLAM/scons/libs/clam_build_helpers.py at line 358 and in the
> > file scons/sconstools/clam.py at line 186 too: def generate_so_name(
> > target, source, env ) :
> > source_dir = os.path.dirname( str(source[0]) )
> > cwd = os.getcwd()
> > os.chdir( source_dir )
> > if sys.platform == 'linux2' :
> > os.system( "/sbin/ldconfig -n ." )
> > os.chdir(cwd)
> > return None
> > I've modified it to:
> > def generate_so_name( target, source, env ) :
> > if sys.platform == 'linux2' :
> > source_dir = os.path.dirname( str(source[0]) )
> > cwd = os.getcwd()
> > os.chdir( source_dir )
> > os.system( "/sbin/ldconfig -n ." )
> > os.chdir(cwd)
> > elif sys.platform == 'darwin':
> > source_file = os.path.basename( str(source[0]) )
> > os.system( "ln -sf %s %s"%(source_file,str(target[0]) ))
> > return None
>
> Perfect. Could you send us a patch. When sending changes to code is a lot
> more
> convenient to send them as a patch. This way we can see which code actually
> changes and apply it with a single command line. See:
> http://clam-project.org/wiki/Devel#Prepare_and_apply_a_patch
>
>
Yes of course. Here you are!


> > With this changes, I could build the Annotator.app, NetworkEditor.app and
> > Chordata.app bundles, and all of them include their dependencies. But
> now,
> > they crashes when they init the qt lib. I'm attaching the log that the OS
> > throws. I didn't ever work with Qt, and I don't know why it crashes,
> maybe
> > some non-binary dependencies not included in the bundle.
>
> That's a weird backtrace. It crashes just when creating the QApplication,
> so
> no actual app logic really has happen. The backtrace shows that the crash
> has
> printed out a message maybe in the console, its contents could help to
> diagnose.
>

I didn't try to run from console :S It was giving this error:
Macario:MacOS chauder$ ./NetworkEditor
Qt internal error: qt_menu.nib could not be loaded. The .nib file should be
placed in QtGui.framework/Versions/Current/Resources/  or in the resources
directory of your application bundle.
Abort trap
It seems that otool didn't copy that directory.

I've read here (http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.6/deployment-mac.html) that qt
comes with a program to install qt resources in a bundle: macdeployqt-mac.
Then I've modified de scons script what build os x bundles, but i did it in
the simplest way: calling it directly, with the macdeployqt command
"hard-wired" in the script.

And that's it! It works!


> > The problem what I've experienced compiling Chordata was because I didn't
> > make the "scons install" of the networkeditor app :P
>

For chordata I made an icns file with the ico in the resources folder, but
it doesn't have so much quality :S I'm attaching the icns file too.


> >
> > I don't have so much time, and I don't know if I could lead :S ......but
> I
> > still try to spend some time if I could.
>
>
Leading just means that previous mac centered clam developers have not been
> active for a while, so do not worry on messing someone else work. No one
> else
> doing it, so you lead the task. ;-)
>
>
>
Uoo It's a big honor for me!

Im going to upload to somewhere the dmgs that Ive created, and I'll give you
the links (the 3 dmgs: Annotator, NetworkEditor and Chordata, are 500mb).
And I'll update the wiki.

Roberto.


> > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 9:30 AM, David García Garzón
> > <david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org<mailto:david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org
> >>
> > wrote: Translated in short. Context: compiling in mac 'snow leopard'.
> >
> > On Friday 18 June 2010 01:08:42 Roberto Chauderlot Marchamalo wrote:
> > > Hello again!
> > >
> > > Os escribo en español otra vez....sorry.
> > >
> > > He hecho avances intentando compilar la librería. De hecho, lo que es
> la
> > > librería en sí, ya la he conseguido compilar.
> > >
> > > Primero quería comentaros que he tenido algún problemilla con las
> > > dependencias que pone en la wiki que hay que instalar. Primero, las
> > > librerías xercesc y id3lib, no compilan en mi snow leopard. Creo que es
> > > debido a que en macports están teniendo algún problema con el snow
> > > leopard y la arquitectura i386, y hay cosas que no compilan bien.
> > > Solucionar el problema de la primera librería fue fácil, existe un
> > > paquete que se llama xercesc3  (en vez de xercesc a secas, como pone en
> > > la wiki, que es para la versión 2), y este compila bien. Para arreglar
> > > la librería id3lib, he tenido que hacer un pequeño apaño y no
> compilarlo
> > > para la arquitectura i386, y hacerlo sólo para la x86_64. Espero que
> > > esto no acarree
> > > consecuencias después.
> >
> > Trans: problems with xercesc and id3lib; installed xercesc3, id3lib
> > patched.
> >
> > Comment: we moved to xercesc3 recently so the option you took is the
> > correct. Would be nice if you send the id3lib patch to the list and to
> the
> > macport maintainers.
> >
> > > Por cierto, también os quería comentar que en la wiki sólo indica la
> > > manera "deprecated" de instalar jack. Ahora mismo está paqueteado, y se
> > > puede instalar fácilmente con un "sudo port install jack". Y tampoco se
> > > comenta nada de instalar portmidi, que también está paqueteado y sería
> > > lo mismo "sudo port install portmidi". Todo se puede instalar desde
> > > macports.
> >
> > Trans: jack and portmidi are available now as ports.
> >
> > Comment: Feel free to update the wiki yourself. If the old methods still
> > have sense for old mac version you can move them to a chapter in the end.
> > If the macports are available for all the versions, just remove those
> > paragraphs.
> >
> > > Después compilé la librería en sí, y sin problemas. Pero el resto de
> > > aplicaciones sí me ha dado problemas. Primero es que, el paquete de
> > > qt4-mac que hay en macports llama a todos los ejecutables de qt con el
> > > sufijo "-mac" (moc-mac, uic-mac, rcc-mac, lupdate-mac, lrelease-mac,
> > > etc), y los scripts de compilación buscan los normales. Y como no tengo
> > > ni idea de scons, lo solucioné creando enlaces simbólicos con los
> > > nombres 'linux' apuntando a los de mac y añadiendo las siguientes
> > > variable de entorno: export QTDIR=/opt/local/bin
> > > export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/lib/pkgconfig/
> > > (supongo que habría que poner en la wiki lo de las variables y para lo
> de
> > > los ejecutables supongo que habría que modificar los scripts :S)
> >
> > Trans: clam libs compiled with no problem, apps gave problems with qt,
> > qt4-mac suffixes -mac all the binaries. He fixed it by adding unsuffixed
> > links and defining QTDIR and PKG_CONFIG_PATH as above.
> >
> > Comment: The perfect solution would be using pkg-config to locate the qt
> > binaries and just setting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH. The problem is that rcc,
> > lupdate, lrelease can not be taken from the pkg-config by now. I want to
> > file a bug in qt. Meanwhile your option should work.
> >
> > > Luego, el programa NetworkEditor, tiene como parámetro la aplicación
> > > QtDesigner.app, pero en el paquete qt4-mac de macports ya no viene en
> > > forma de bundle '.app' (pero sí que es invocable desde la consola). Así
> > > que, aunque lo he compilado no me deja crear el paquete.
> >
> > Trans: QtDesigner is no more a bundle so the package build which ask for
> > the builder fails.
> >
> > Comment: No idea of the implications of QtDesigner not being a bundle on
> > how we should package it. Any other mac developer reading?
> >
> > > Después, el SMSTools no me deja compilarlo porque dice que no encuentra
> > > unas cabeceras (de qt): Macario:SMSTools chauder$ scons
> prefix=/opt/local
> > > clam_prefix=/opt/local release=1 scons: Reading SConscript files ...
> > > Loading nsis tool...
> > > Loading Bundle tool
> > > Lodading dmg tool...
> > > Version:  0.4.13
> > > Package version:  0.4.13~svn14280
> > > scons: done reading SConscript files.
> > > scons: Building targets ...
> > > == Compiling vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:1:21: error: qlayout.h: No such file or
> > > directory vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:2:20: error: qlabel.h: No
> such
> > > file or directory vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:3:20: error:
> qtimer.h:
> > > No such file or directory In file included from
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:4:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:4:20: error: qframe.h: No such file or
> > > directory In file included from vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:5:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.hxx:5:21: error: qdialog.h: No such file or
> > > directory In file included from vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:4:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:11: error: expected class-name before
> ‘{’
> > > token vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:12: error: ISO C++ forbids
> > > declaration of ‘Q_OBJECT’ with no type
> vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:13:
> > > error: expected ‘;’ before ‘public’ vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:17:
> > > error: expected `:' before ‘slots’ vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:18:
> > > error: expected primary-expression before ‘void’
> > > vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:18: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration
> of
> > > ‘slots’ with no type vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:18: error: expected
> > > ‘;’ before ‘void’ vmqt/CLAM/WaitMsgIndicator.hxx:21: error:
> ‘QPaintEvent’
> > > has not been declared In file included from
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:5:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.hxx:16: error: expected class-name before
> ‘{’
> > > token vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.hxx:18: error: expected `)' before
> ‘*’
> > > token vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.hxx:24: error: ‘QCloseEvent’ has not
> > > been declared vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:11: error: expected `)'
> > > before ‘*’ token vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx: In member function
> > > ‘void CLAM::VM::QtWaitMessageImpl::LabelText(const std::string&)’:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:32: error: invalid use of incomplete
> type
> > > ‘struct QLabel’ vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.hxx:7: error: forward
> > > declaration of ‘struct QLabel’ vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx: At
> global
> > > scope:
> > > vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:35: error: variable or field
> ‘closeEvent’
> > > declared void vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:35: error: ‘QCloseEvent’
> > > was not declared in this scope vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.cxx:35:
> > > error: ‘e’ was not declared in this scope scons: ***
> > > [vmqt/CLAM/QtWaitMessageImpl.o] Error 1
> > > scons: building terminated because of errors.
> > >
> > > Supongo que esto se arreglará instalando el qt4-mac-devel, que no lo
> > > instalé porque en la wiki no lo decía y todavía no he tenido tiempo (el
> > > qt4-mac me tardó unas 8 horas en instalarse, esto tardará.......).
> >
> > Trans: Problems compiling SMSTools with the output above, maybe a missing
> > install for qt4-mac-devel?
> >
> > Comment: Maybe. They might have split the package but then no qt app
> should
> > compile. A more likely reason is the way SMSTools includes Qt without the
> > QtGui/ QtCore/... prefixes. That would highlight a bug in the qt4.py tool
> > we provide when specifying the CPPPATH. If Qt includes are in
> > /what/ever/include that directory and also
> > /what/ever/include/{QtGui,QtCore,...} should be added. Try to compile
> with
> > the verbose=1 option and send the command line to see which -I options
> > appear.
> >
> > > Luego seguí con Annotator, que si que compiló, creo la aplicación
> ".app"
> > > y un dmg para instalarlo, pero cuando intentas ejecutarlo dice que
> > > faltan 3 librerías que no están en el paquete: libclam_core.1.4.dylib
> > > libclam_processing.1.4.dylib
> > > libclam_audioio.1.4.dylib
> > > Y por lo que he visto es el script de compilación el que no las copia
> :S
> > > Lo he intentado hacer a mano de las que he encontrado en
> /opt/local/lib/
> > > pero, primero sólo encuentro la versión 1.4.1, y que luego, incluir
> esas
> > > versiones, la aplicación me empieza a pedir las librerías en
> /opt/local/
> > > y
> > >
> > > no debería. Dyld Error Message:
> > >   Library not loaded: /opt/local//lib/libclam_core.1.4.dylib
> > >
> > >   Referenced from:
> > >
> /Users/chauder/Documents/Proyectos/clam/clam/Annotator/Annotator.app/Cont
> > > e nts/MacOS/../Frameworks/libclam_audioio.1.4.dylib Igual, si vuelvo a
> > > compilar la librería con la opción de sandbox, esto se soluciona.
> >
> > Trans: Annotator creates the dmg but when installed it complains about
> > missing libraries.
> >
> > Comment: We changed the way to name libraries including mac but we didn't
> > test mac. So sorry for the inconvenience. Maybe what is missing is a
> > 'soname' link with that name pointing to the fully versioned library. If
> > that solves the problem tell me and i will add the step in the scons.
> >
> > > Es script de compilación de chordata no deja tampoco, me da el
> siguiente
> > > error: Macario:chordata chauder$
> > >
> PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/libexec/qt4-mac/lib/pkgconfig/:/Users/chauder/
> > > D ocuments/Proyectos/clam/clam/NetworkEditor/ scons prefix=/opt/local
> > > clam_prefix=/opt/local release=1 scons: Reading SConscript files ...
> > > Loading nsis tool...
> > > Loading Bundle tool
> > > Lodading dmg tool...
> > > Version:  1.1.0
> > > Package version:  1.1.0~svn14280
> > > Package clam_qtmonitors was not found in the pkg-config search path.
> > > Perhaps you should add the directory containing `clam_qtmonitors.pc'
> > > to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
> > > No package 'clam_qtmonitors' found
> > > OSError: 'PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/opt/local/lib/pkgconfig pkg-config clam_core
> > > clam_audioio clam_processing clam_qtmonitors --libs --cflags' exited 1:
> > > File
> "/Users/chauder/Documents/Proyectos/clam/clam/chordata/SConstruct",
> > > line 70: ], CLAMInstallDir)
> > >
> > >   File
> > >
> > >
> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/scons-1.
> > > 3 .0/SCons/Environment.py", line 224: return apply(self.method, nargs,
> > > kwargs)
> > >
> > >   File "/opt/local/share/clam/sconstools/clam.py", line 166:
> > >     ' '.join(libs)))
> > >
> > >   File
> > >
> > >
> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/scons-1.
> > > 3 .0/SCons/Environment.py", line 1477: return function(self,
> > > self.backtick(command))
> > >
> > >   File
> > >
> > >
> "/opt/local/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.6/lib/scons-1.
> > > 3 .0/SCons/Environment.py", line 596: raise OSError("'%s' exited %d" %
> > > (command, status))
> > > Yo le pongo la variable de entorno que pide, pero el script la
> > > sobreescribe. Así que no funciona.
> >
> > Trans: chordata fails to locate
> >
> > Comment: it complains about a library qtmonitor that is installed with
> > NetworkEditor. Maybe you should 'scons install' NetworkEditor and then
> try
> > compile chordata. Anyway no guarantees that the chordata bundle will work
> > at all. Some scons hacking could be needed to include such library in the
> > bundle.
> >
> > > Y luego el programa Voice2Midi tiene las directivas de compilación para
> > > crear el "distribuible" a medio hacer.
> >
> > Trans: Voice2Midi is work in progress.
> >
> > Comment: I guess we never really addressed Voice2Midi on mac.
> >
> > > Así que después de una larga sesión de compilacion, no he conseguido
> nada
> > > útil. Pero espero que a vosotros si que os sea útil este feedback.
> > >
> > > Si tengo un poco de tiempo libre intento aprender scons y os ayudo con
> > > los scripts, que están un poco desastrillos :P
> >
> > Trans: Nothing useful from compilation. He will help as he gets expertise
> > with scons.
> >
> > Sorry, Roberto, for the inconveniences. Thanks for your effort. The mac
> > platform needs some love. We would be very grateful if you take the lead
> on
> > that. We will help you as most as we can with scons or any other problem
> it
> > could jump.
> >
> > I hope that, by adding the soname links, you will be able to run dmg's
> that
> > built. Are the binaries you built without dmg, at least, runnable?
> >
> > David.
> >
> > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:35 PM, David García Garzón
> > > <david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org<mailto:
> david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org><
> > > mailto:david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org<mailto:
> david.garcia at barcelonamedia
> > > .org>>> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Monday 07 June 2010 14:33:03 Roberto Chauderlot Marchamalo wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Pau, I'll try it. I have windows and linux devel skills but no
> > > > experience with the mac development enviroment. But, I'm interested
> in
> > > > learning hat enviroment :D
> > > > David, yes I've followed the link on the mac os x build page of the
> > > > wiki: http://clam-project.org/wiki/Devel/Mac_OSX_build It has this
> > > > text:
> > > >
> > > > "You can choose either download a source tarball from the clam
> website:
> > > >
> > > > http://clam.iua.upf.edu//download-source.html
> > > >
> > > > or get the latest version of subversion. In this case you'll also
> need
> > > >
> > > > to install subversion macport:
> > > >   $ sudo port install subversion
> > > >   $ svn co http://iua-share.upf.edu/svn/clam/trunk"
> > > >
> > > > thank you!
> > >
> > > I fixed it. Thanks.
> > >
> > > > 2010/6/7 David García Garzón
> > > > <david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org<mailto:
> david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org
> > > > ><mailto:david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org<mailto:
> david.garcia at barcelonam
> > > > edia.org>>
> > > >
> > > > > BTW, Roberto, did you take the wrong link from any clam related
> page
> > > > > we could fix?
> > > > >
> > > > > David.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Monday 07 June 2010 10:43:49 Pau Arumí wrote:
> > > > > > clam is not longer hosted at iua since long time ago. clam lives
> in
> > > > > > http://clam-project.org
> > > > > > we used to have a redirection to but it is no longer active.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > about generating mac binaries, you are welcomed. it is basically
> > > > > > documented http://clam-project.org/wiki/Devel/Mac_OSX_build
> > > > > > but requires some development experience.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > P
> > > > > >
> > > > > > El dl 07 de 06 de 2010 a les 05:49 +0200, en/na Roberto va
> escriure:
> > > > > > > Hola!!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Perdonad que os escriba en español, pero es que no me manejo
> muy
> > > > > > > bien con el ingles. Pero espero que esto no suponga un problema
> > > > > > > :P
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He visto publicado el programa CHORDATA en varios blogs de
> > > > > > > guitarra y me ha encantado. Llevaba años buscando una
> > > > > > > herramienta similar, incluso, empecé a programar algo parecido
> > > > > > > en matlab años atrás. Pero nunca llegué a hacer nada funcional
> > > > > > > (en otro lenguaje) por falta de tiempo. Así que, os felicito
> por
> > > > > > > el proyecto!!!! Me encanta.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He leido en un blog, que no habéis sacado versión para mac del
> > > > > > > chordata porque no tenéis ninguna máquina mac a mano. Pues, si
> > > > > > > queréis yo os hago el binario para mac. Tengo un macbook
> > > > > > > blanquito aunque no he desarrollado nunca para mac. He
> intentado
> > > > > > > bajarme el código de
> > > > > > > http://clam.iua.upf.edu/download-source.html pero me ha dado
> un
> > > > > > > bonito error 500, así que no he podido probar a compilar nada.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Entonces, si queréis que os ayude generando la versión para
> mac,
> > > > > > > yo encantado, que le daré buen uso ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Un saludo!
> > > > > > > Roberto
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
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