[CLAM] Is this project still active (and still no Lucid packages)?

David García Garzón david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org
Thu Feb 24 09:27:14 PST 2011


Typoman strikes again, i wrote 'snapshot' instead 'snapshots'. I didn't test 
the commands below alltogether, you have been warned ;-)

sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-
maverick/svnsnapshots ./' # in your case you already added it, i guess
sudo apt-get update
mkdir -p packages
cd packages
for package in clam clam-plugins clam-network clam-chordata
do
        sudo apt-get build-dep $package # install dependencies
        apt-get source -b $package # download source and build package
        sudo dpkg -i *deb # install generated packages
done

On Thursday 24 February 2011 17:26:23 David García Garzón wrote:
> About the typo, your are right, i mistyped it again. Sorry.
> 
> About the missing packages, what you see now are the packages which are
> platform independant (docs, python, examples, data...) The packages I
> generated were i386 packages and i guess you have amd64 architecture. I
> cannot build amd64 packages myself but having the deb-src line it should
> be quite easy to rebuild them.
> 
> sudo apt-add-repository 'deb http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-
> maverick/svnsnapshot ./' # in your case you already added it, i guess
> sudo apt-get update
> mkdir -p packages
> cd packages
> for package in clam clam-plugins clam-network clam-chordata
> do
> 	sudo apt-get build-dep $package # install dependencies
> 	apt-get source -b $package # download source and build package
> 	sudo dpkg -i *deb # install generated packages
> done
> 
> On Thursday 24 February 2011 10:51:58 Vincent Meyer wrote:
> > Hi again David,
> > 
> > I found another typo ("/svnsnapshots" to be used instead of "-snapshots"
> > in your indication) but could fix it. So the lines to be added in the
> > source list would be:
> > 
> > deb http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick/svnsnapshots/
> > ./ deb-src
> > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick/svnsnapshots/./
> > 
> > That works, and after an update, I can now see the clam-project
> > repository in Synaptic Package Manager.
> > 
> > The weird thing now is that I can only see the following items:
> > * clam-networkeditor-examples 1.4.1-1
> > * clam-tools 1.4.1-svn14674-1
> > * libclam-doc 1.4.1-svn14674-1
> > 
> > and "clam-networkeditor-examples" refuses to install because it is
> > missing "clam-networkeditor 1.4.1-1".
> > 
> > Sorry to bother you with that, but I think that it might be useful not
> > only for me but for others as well ;-)
> > Thanks again for your great efforts, and I am looking forward to using
> > the tools on Maverick, and maybe being able to give back to the
> > community by contributing too.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > 
> > Vincent
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 18:48, David García Garzón <
> > 
> > david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org> wrote:
> > > Sorry, the previous lines just worked for stable releases (none
> > > available for
> > > maverick). For the svn snapshots the lines are:
> > > 
> > > deb http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick-snapshots ./
> > > deb-src
> > > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick-snapshots./
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:44:57 David García Garzón wrote:
> > > > Links on the linux download page also updated. BTW, Vincent, adding
> > > 
> > > sources
> > > 
> > > > to apt  could be more convenient than downloading the deb files.
> > > > Just run:
> > > > $ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list.d/clam
> > > > And add these two lines:
> > > > deb http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick ./
> > > > deb-src http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick ./
> > > > 
> > > > And you'll have all clam packages ready to install with your package
> > > > manager.
> > > > 
> > > > David
> > > > 
> > > > On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:20:26 David García Garzón wrote:
> > > > > On Wednesday 23 February 2011 17:14:25 Vincent Meyer wrote:
> > > > > > Hi David,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I have a great interest in the Clam-Project (both as a framework
> > > > > > and
> > > 
> > > as
> > > 
> > > > > > a library).
> > > > > > As I saw that you made it available for Maverick, I thought I
> > > > > > would give it a try.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Unfortunately, I could not succeed to do anything with the link
> > > > > > that you posted here (
> > > > > > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick/svnsnapsho
> > > > > > ts /
> > > 
> > > ).
> > > 
> > > > > > Opening it in a browser leads me to a "Forbidden" page. The Lucid
> > > 
> > > page
> > > 
> > > > > > opens fine, but I'm under Maverick.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks in advance for any hint you could have for a
> > > > > > far-from-being-an-expert Linux user.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Vincent
> > > > > 
> > > > > Forbidden? Oh, yes, it was just a marketing tactic to make people
> > > 
> > > wanting
> > > 
> > > > > it. ;-) Now seriously, i just forgot add the indexes pages it
> > > > > should be already fixed. I also enabled natty[1]. Thanks for the
> > > > > warning.
> > > > > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-natty/svnsnapshots/
> > > > > 
> > > > > TODO: put a link from the web
> > > > > 
> > > > > David.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 14:31, David García Garzón <
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > david.garcia at barcelonamedia.org> wrote:
> > > > > > > On Friday 11 February 2011 21:05:05 David García Garzón wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Monday 07 February 2011 17:38:30 Pau Arumí wrote:
> > > > > > > > > El ds 05 de 02 de 2011 a les 13:29 +0100, en/na Mark Dammer
> > > > > > > > > va
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > escriure:
> > > > > > > > > > I just stumbled across CLAM and find the website and the
> > > > > > > > > > software
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > inspiring. But I wonder if this project is still under
> > > > > > > > > > active development. The fact that there are still no
> > > > > > > > > > packages for Ubuntu 10.04LTS "Lucid" - what was discussed
> > > > > > > > > > in the mailing lists since
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > almost
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > a year ago makes me wonder if this project is still under
> > > > > > > > > > active development.
> > > > > > > > > > thanks for any update, Mark
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Hi Mark,
> > > > > > > > > yes the project is well active. However the svn log is a
> > > > > > > > > better thermometer of activity than the web or mailing
> > > > > > > > > list. Lead developers/maintainers are working at
> > > > > > > > > BarcelonaMedia and using
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > clam
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > extensively for prototyping their real-time systems.
> > > > > > > > > Therefore the main activity is in the networks real-time
> > > > > > > > > infrastructure (including ladspa and lv2 plugins), the
> > > > > > > > > NetworkEditor and
> > > 
> > > python
> > > 
> > > > > > > > > modules to generate and modify networks.
> > > > > > > > > Though most of the signal processing we develop at BM
> > > > > > > > > nowadays about spatial audio is kept private, the CLAM
> > > > > > > > > infrastructure improvements are always public and GPL.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > About Ubuntu packages: David is your man i wait him to
> > > > > > > > > answer.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > > > P
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I am currently working on having ubuntu packages for maverick
> > > 
> > > based
> > > 
> > > > > > > > on subversion snapshots. Once they are ready, at your
> > > > > > > > request, i will try to backport them to lucid, but no
> > > > > > > > warranty: last time i tried i found some show stopper
> > > > > > > > dependency problems. I just don't want to expend too much
> > > > > > > > time on that again, sorry.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > We are few developers and package building steal too much
> > > > > > > > hours from developing the framework and its applications,
> > > > > > > > which should be our main focus between releases. While we
> > > > > > > > provide some
> > > 
> > > binaries
> > > 
> > > > > > > > when we do a new release, packaging for every
> > > > > > > > platform/distro/version should be something that people
> > > > > > > > working
> > > 
> > > on
> > > 
> > > > > > > > those platforms do.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you want to help but you can't maintain the packages
> > > > > > > > yourself, please, file or vote bug reports for you distro
> > > > > > > > asking for maintained CLAM packages. Thanks.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > As i have the packages I will send a new mail to the list.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > David.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Subversion based packages for maverick are built[1], just libs,
> > > > > > > plugins, NetEditor and chordata. Not even tested if they work
> > > > > > > properly (i am in natty)
> > > > > > > so please, give me any feedback on succes or failure.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [1]
> > > 
> > > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-maverick/svnsnapshots/
> > > 
> > > > > > > Now trying to build for lucid[2], although i got the expected
> > > > > > > dependency problems i think i found some solutions, which won't
> > > > > > > be accepted by debian policy guardians but allows the same
> > > > > > > packaging work in both lucid and maverick.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > [2]
> > > 
> > > http://clam-project.org/download/linux-ubuntu-lucid/svnsnapshots/
> > > 
> > > > > > > David.
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